Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiernan Tague incident
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus that WP:NEVENT not satisfied. Goldsztajn (talk) 03:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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Deproded. Not notable. Does not pass any aspect of WP:NEVENT. Also BLPCRIME issues. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete on the whole as it has turned out there was not lasting significance given the mother was not in fact charged.
Strong keep-- passes the "lasting coverage" criterion of the event notability policy as the precedent this case sets will have a lasting impact on law. Well-sourced and cites a number of reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. The only reason to delete it would be to claim that it was routine and completely unimportant, but given the sources discuss precedent, this is not the case.Mrfoogles (talk) 04:26, 18 March 2025 (UTC)- And I don't see WP:BLPCRIME issues -- he has pled guilty to vehicular manslaughter, and the article only says he was being accused of 2nd-degree murder (which needs to be updated, though). The article is about the crime, so saying it should not mention the crime is not applicable. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:28, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- The entire claim to notability is based on the mother. There is nothing notable about drunk driving. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles Are we looking at the same article? This is an article on someone who hasn't been convicted of a crime that has virtually no coverage to sustain WP:LASTING.
- There was no precedent because she didn't even end up being charged! That was the conclusion! There is no precedent. All of the sourcing is primary, as it does not reflect or do any of its own analysis, it is just Thing Happened PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:30, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Fundamentally this is a car crash that made the local and tabloid news for a few days. The only update is them saying they would not charge the mother. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I will admit did not notice that part. I kind of want to keep it just because it is so well-sourced, but given there does not seem to have been lasting significance I'll probably strike my vote. Mrfoogles (talk) 05:25, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is not really "well-sourced". PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think there was a reasonable idea there might have been lasting significance when the article was created -- only we now know there has not been lasting significance. Mrfoogles (talk) 05:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- And I don't see WP:BLPCRIME issues -- he has pled guilty to vehicular manslaughter, and the article only says he was being accused of 2nd-degree murder (which needs to be updated, though). The article is about the crime, so saying it should not mention the crime is not applicable. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:28, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Transportation, and Michigan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:20, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as failing NEVENT. No indication of lasting relevance. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete No signs of lasting relevance. All sources are from 2023. RealStanger43286 (Let's talk!) 06:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Vehicular manslaughter isn't terribly notable. Kid went too fast in a car and hit a tree, passenger died. This is no different than any other such type of accident. Mother was not charged/convicted, so there is nothing left for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Oaktree_b. It's tragic enough to tie a stranger's stomach into knots, but sadly it's commonplace in America. Bearian (talk) 01:43, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
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